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- I was scrolling through the Ginny Weasley tag when I
realized the actual lack of material and the amount of hate fans and
people have towards this character. And it got me thinking. Why? Why
does this character get so many times sidelined, ignored and hated on.
The answers are of course there, staring into our faces.
I’m not really a meta person, but I just felt like this is something I need to write down and put it out to the world.
I’ve read many silly comments about why people hate Ginny. My absolute favorite is the ‘she’s a slut’
one. No, I’m quite serious, this is one of the most repeated phrases
when it comes to some anti-fans of hers. And without getting me started
on the wrongness of slut-shaming - it is completely unfounded. We see
Ginny in three different relationships throughout the series. Three
different lasting relationship as a matter of fact. She dates
Michael through the entirety of OotP, then she hooks up with Dean which
lasts almost through the whole arc of HBP. Now seriously, how many 14-15
years olds you know who manage to hold year-long relationships?
Exactly.
Others argue that if she really did not give up on
Harry, as she states in HBP, then why did she go out with all these
people. Again, I’m trying to hold myself back and answer these kind of
questions without throwing things and banging my head (or preferably
other people’s head) into the wall. Because guys, this is major SLUT
SHAMING. Why can’t a girl be confident in her sexuality? Why can’t she
form more or less casual romantic relationships? At this point she’s
emotionally invested in a guy who clearly ignores her existence. So she
decides to move on - or at least try -, have fun, gain more confidence
in herself. Just by what twisted standard is that a despicable thing?
No,
these people are showing signs of those desperate fans who practically
rage when their beloved celebrity starts dating someone. Who isn’t them.
(Yes guys, this is happening in a book fandom.) Or because
they already envisioned him with someone and they can’t get over the
fact that their OTP isn’t happening. Which is, as a character-centric
reader/viewer something that I don’t find a healthy perspective in any
fandom. To each their own I guess, but if you get so blinded by your
ships, you miss out on a lot of the good stuff.
You know, I’m
talking a lot about Ginny’s relationships, and I can actually hear those
who stand by the opinion that she is completely hung up on and her
whole world is centered around Harry cheering right now.
Which is
another point I’d like to clear. Ginny is not defined by some school
girl crush. Did she idolize Harry at some point? Probably yes. Was she
into him through the whole series? That could be another yes. Did she
put her life on a hold because of it, or put Harry above everything else
that was going on? Well, that is a definite NO.
First
of all, let’s inspect this quote here. OotP, right after Mr Weasley got
attacked by Nagini and been transported to the hospital, Harry and the
Weasley kids are at Grimmauld Place, waiting for news on his state.
“We’ve got to go to St. Mungo’s,” said Ginny urgently. She looked
around at her brothers; they were of course still in their pajamas.
“Sirius, can you lend us cloaks or anything?”
“Hang on, you can’t go tearing off to St. Mungo’s!” said Sirius.
“Course we can go to St. Mungo’s if we want,” said Fred, with a mulish expression. “He’s our dad!”
“And how are you going to explain how you knew Arthur was attacked before the hospital even let his wife know?”
“What does that matter?” said George hotly.
“It
matters because we don’t want to draw attention to the fact that Harry
is having visions of things that are happening hundreds of miles away!”
said Sirius angrily. “Have you any idea what the Ministry would make of
that information?”
Fred and George looked as though they could not
care less what the Ministry made of anything. Ron was still ashen-faced
and silent.
Ginny said, “Somebody else could have told us… we could have heard it somewhere other than Harry.”
Oh yes, she cares about Harry’s side. In fact, after this she is the
first of the three of them who accepts the situation which then cools
down the twins as well. But that’s her dad. Her first instinct
is not that to acknowledge that Harry’s involvement in some weird
Ministry power game could be more important than making sure that his
dad’s safe.
Still, the most obvious and popular reason for all
the ignorance towards this character is her portrayal in the movies.
Actually, if I would’ve seen the movies without any knowledge of the
source material, I know I would’ve been either absolutely passive or
even negative about her. Why? Because movie!Ginny lacks almost each and
every property that has driven me to this character in the first place.
You can blame everyone from the script writer to the director for this,
I’ve seen many take it out on Bonnie Wright, but personally I honestly
don’t believe it’s an actor fault. (I’m actually quite excited to see
Bonnie in other projects and movies in the future.) It’s just that
Yates’ and Klove’s take on the character is obviously very different
from my own, which might not be bothering me, if they didn’t rewrite her
entire OotP/HBP/DH arc to suit their purpose more.
Let’s see who
Ginny is in the movies or in the books. Before OotP, there’s really not
much we can talk about, she gets mentioned again and again, but you
need a magnifying glass to see an actual character between the lines.
Then comes OotP, a book that is generally my least favorite of the whole
series, but still has many redeeming qualities: and one of them is
definitely this sort of re-introduction that Ginny gets.
I admit,
before that I didn’t care much about Ginny. She was… there. She didn’t
bother me, I didn’t bother (about) her. But then here comes OotP and
suddenly… Bam. Instant favorite.
It’s not that the character
changes, rather than our perspective about her. Until that we really do
define her as “the girl with the crush on Harry”, but once that gets out
of the way, we have this incredible chance to see her for who she
really is for the first time. And at the same time we realize just how
restricted we are because of the single pov nature of the books.
So who this shy girl with the cereal bowl really is? Well, first of all there is nothing shy about her. She’s outspoken. Stubborn. Temperamental. Impulsive. Witty. Fun.
The kind of person people are generally drawn to, therefore also has a
sort of popularity. (Which is I presume another source of the Ginny hate
going around. People generally like their favorite characters nerds,
geeks or loners.)
She was the life and soul of the team. Her imitations of Ron
anxiously bobbing up and down in front of the goal posts as the Quaffle
sped toward him, or of Harry bellowing orders at McLaggen before being
knocked out cold, kept them all highly amused.
There are actually many parallels that Rowling draws between Ginny
and the Weasley twins, or hinting at the closeness of their
relationship. She even once flat out announces that there is a visible
similarity between them.
“Excuse me, but I care what happens to Sirius as much as you do!” said Ginny, her jaw set so that her resemblance to Fred and George was suddenly striking.
“You’re
too -” Harry began, but Ginny said fiercely, “I’m three years older
than you were when you fought You-Know-Who over the Sorcerer’s Stone,
and it’s because of me that Malfoy’s stuck back in Umbridge’s office
with giant flying bogies attacking him -”
And let’s not forget this poignant scene.
“Well,” said Ginny slowly, helping herself to a bit of egg, too, “if
you really want to talk to Sirius, I expect we could think of a way to
do it.”
“Come on,” said Harry dully. “With Umbridge policing the fires and reading all our mail?”
“The thing about growing up with Fred and George,” said Ginny thoughtfully, “is that you sort of start thinking anything’s possible if you’ve got enough nerve.”
She obviously also acquired a fair amount of resourcefulness around
the twins, which prevents her from actually getting caught most of the
time.
Turning to Fred and George, she said, “It’s no-go with the Extendable
Ears, she’s gone and put an Imperturbable Charm on the kitchen door.”
“How d’you know?” said George, looking crestfallen.
“Tonks
told me how to find out,” said Ginny. “You just chuck stuff at the door
and if it can’t make contact the door’s been Imperturbed. I’ve been
flicking Dungbombs at it from the top of the stairs and they just soar
away from it, so there’s no way the Extendable Ears will be able to get
under the gap.”
(…)
And who’s left all those Dungbombs outside the kitchen door?”
“Crookshanks,” said Ginny unblushingly. “He loves playing with them.”
Ginny never really keeps herself from speaking her mind. No matter who is the person she’s speaking against.
“Yeah, Zabini, because you’re so talented… at posing…”
“Ron and Ginny say you’ve been hiding from everyone since you got back from St. Mungo’s.”
“They do, do they?” said Harry, glaring at Ron and Ginny. Ron looked down at his feet but Ginny seemed quite unabashed.
“Well, you have!” she said.
(…)
“I didn’t want anyone to talk to me,” said Harry, who was feeling more and more nettled.
“Well,
that was a bit stupid of you,” said Ginny angrily, “seeing as you don’t
know anyone but me who’s been possessed by You-Know-Who, and I can tell
you how it feels.”
Harry remained quite still as the impact of these words hit him. Then he wheeled round.
“I forgot,” he said.
“Lucky you,” said Ginny coolly.
I believe if there’s something that doesn’t need saying, and so I
won’t really elaborate on that part, is that Ginny can absolutely hold
her own in a fight. She’s a 16-year-old who took an enormous part in the
final battle and lived to tell the tale. I think it’s actually
interesting to see how the movies focused so much on Ginny’s magical
power. Strangely enough, I never found it that important. I rather
admired her willingness to fight.
“I can’t go home!” Ginny shouted, angry tears sparkling in her eyes.
“My whole family’s here, I can’t stand waiting there alone and not
knowing and—”
We also learn pretty quickly that Ginny is quite protective of those
close to her. Her (in)famous standing up to Malfoy in CoS is only
beginning to hint what comes later, as her character gets more
spotlight. Her whole relationship with Luna is a beautiful example of
that and I would so like to write a whole other discussion about it, and
why is that also a case of character development for Ginny. The way she
starts to scold people for insulting her, and even berates Ron for
calling her Loony, or how she generally always sticks by her after OotP.
It is something that oddly goes unrecognized by many.
“Oh, it’s been all right,” said Luna. “A bit lonely without the D.A. Ginny’s been nice, though. She stopped two boys in our Transfiguration class calling me ‘Loony’ the other day —”
“I like this song,” said Luna, swaying in time to the waltzlike tune,
and a few seconds later she stood up and glided onto the dance floor,
where she revolved on the spot, quite alone, eyes closed and waving her
arms.
(…)
“This girl is very nice-looking,” Krum said, recalling Harry to his surroundings. Krum was pointing at Ginny, who had just joined Luna.
And while I promised I wouldn’t go into a full-blown discussion on
this relationship, there’s this one scene that I have to mention. I
always considered this a turning point in the Ginny/Luna dynamic, and
part of the reason why I believe this friendship played an enormous part
in Ginny’s character development. She finally puts aside her prejudices
and forced to look through Luna’s crazy-girl image, and see a loyal
supportive friend in her.
“Luna, can you help Ginny?”
“Yes,” said Luna, sticking her wand behind her ear for safekeeping, then putting an arm around Ginny’s waist and pulling her up.
“It’s
only my ankle, I can do it myself!” said Ginny impatiently, but next
moment she had collapsed sideways and grabbed Luna for support.
Okay, I know I’m overanalyzing here. But you can’t argue that after
their Ministry adventure Ginny’s whole attitude towards Luna
dramatically changed.
There are however reasons I can accept when
it comes to not liking Ginny’s character. First, talking about her and
Luna’s relationship, we must not forget that Ginny was the one who
introduced her as “Loony Lovegood” to Harry and Neville at the
OotP train ride in the first place. Her outspokenness also means that
she can sometimes be unforgiving with her words, and her pranks could be
rather humiliating (tripping Ron in front of Fleur, etc). In this
regard, once again there are quite many twins parallels that we could
make, and I expect that those, who dislike Ginny for these reasons, are
also not so smitten with the twins’ ways. If not, we could pop up the
question why is it okay in their case and not okay in hers, but that
would lead to nasty subjects like sexism and we don’t want to go down on
that road more than necessary right now.
Finally, but not at all
least, we need to talk more about the subject of drawbacks of single
pov books. Namely the impact it has on other than the main character’s
development and understanding. Or more precisely: the lack of
understanding we have of anyone who’s not Harry (or Hermoine and Ron,
but even with them there are gaps in our knowledge). Just like every
more or less minor character in the books, Ginny is not fully fleshed
out. And the fact that she’s a teenager, therefore she’s ever-changing -
not really helping. We get hints about who she is, but we fill the gaps
ourselves, we paint the whole picture to our own taste.
You must
have noticed that I didn’t even mention Ginny’s experience with
Riddle’s diary the whole time. That’s because we never really know how
that affected her. We can assume that it made her wiser. More cautious.
We can also assume that it might be the reason she - alone of all the
Weasleys - can be seen saying Voldemort’s name. (Another rather
overlooked moment.)
“I knew you wouldn’t be happy unless you were hunting Voldemort.”
It’s hard to write about a character when there are so many things
left unsaid or unexplained about her. It’s even harder to differentiate
our own assumptions from the actual facts that we were given. I’m pretty
sure that I failed in that regard, but I still hope that I managed to
provide some new aspects to an unfairly unappreciated character.
Source : http://dunhamkids.tumblr.com/post/25188783032/i-was-scrolling-through-the-ginny-weasley-tag-whenJ'adore  | |
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